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  • ‘The 4:30 Movie’ Interview: Director Kevin Smith

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    Available on digital beginning October 1st is ‘The 4:30 Movie,’ directed by Kevin Smith, and starring Austin Zajur, Nicholas Cirillo, Reed Northrup, Siena Agudong, Jason Lee, Kate Micucci, Justin Long, Genesis Rodriguez, and Ken Jeong.

    Related Article: Movie Review: ‘The 4:30 Movie’

    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Moviefone recently had the pleasure of speaking over Zoom with ‘Clerks‘ and ‘Chasing Amy‘ writer and director Kevin Smith about his new film “The 4:30 Movie,” a semi-autobiographical, warmly nostalgic look at a teen romance that blossoms in the seats of a local movie theater in the summer of 1986.

    You can read the full interview below or click on the video player above to watch our interview with Kevin Smith.

    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Moviefone: To begin with, how are you feeling about the response to the movie so far?

    Kevin Smith: So good, man, no complaints. It’s a nice byproduct when people like the movie. Never the aim but never not the aim. It’s never like, “I want to make something people hate.” But it’s nice when you make something and people are like, “Yeah, good on you.”

    (L to R) Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith's ‘The 4:30 Movie'. Photo: Saban Films.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith’s ‘The 4:30 Movie’. Photo: Saban Films.

    Moviefone: Are the events of this film sort of ripped right from the pages of the Kevin Smith biography?

    Kevin Smith: Yeah. I mean, look, the events of every movie I’ve ever made are pretty much ripped from the pages of the Kevin Smith biography with the exception of ‘Dogma.’ Even parts of that are pretty autobiographical. I’m not a very inventive storyteller or filmmaker. I crib from real life all the time, and this movie is absolutely no exception. The first scene [in which the teen lead calls the Chinese restaurant where his crush works], that long phone conversation, that literally happened and that’s almost verbatim the things that I said in terms of making a big order and then saying “Six and a half almond cookies and your hand in marriage.” Stuff like that came right out of real life. There are moments where Brian David, our main character, is riding around talking into his tape recorder — I lifted that from recordings of me doing the exact same thing. I cribbed liberally from my real life to make this flick. But to be fair, I do that with all the flicks.

    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Austin Zajur as Brian David and Nicholas Cirillo as Burny in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Austin Zajur as Brian David and Nicholas Cirillo as Burny in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Moviefone: You filmed this in the theater that was your local cineplex as a kid — which you ended up buying and turning into Smodcastle Cinemas. Was the theater in danger of closing before you jumped in?

    Kevin Smith: In fact, the other day was the two-year anniversary of us taking over officially and it becoming Smodcastle Cinemas. This was a movie theater I grew up going to in my childhood. My father would take me there, I’d go there with my family, I’d go there with my friends on the weekend. It’s in the neighboring town, Atlantic Highlands [New Jersey], right next to where I grew up. Post-COVID, like many movie theaters, they fell on pretty hard times. There are multiplexes all around us with better seating and bigger, better quality but this was our local community theater. Me and my friends got together and bought it to keep it going. It’s over 100 years old so we were like “Let’s try it for another 100.” But when we bought it, one of the first things I realized is I got a free set. I can make a whole-ass movie here. This is a location for heaven’s sakes. Naturally being the guy who made ‘Clerks,’ it’s like “Do I make a movie about what it’s like to work in a movie theater?” I never did that myself so that would be like pretending or stolen valor. So I was like “You know what I can do? Tell a story about all the times that I hopped theaters as a kid.” Our parents would drop us off for the matinee and then come pick us up at 10:00 at night, and only give us two bucks to go to the movies, man. You pay for one movie and then you snuck into another and then you snuck into another and you kept going. So I figured with this location I can tell that story. There’s something cheeky about making a movie in a movie theater about movies and stuff. It’s not so much cheeky as affectionate. Obviously, movies have been a big part of my life. So much so they shaped my adulthood. Where I saw them, where I ingested those movies, that gets the shout-out this time around. I’ve been shouting out movies my whole life and it’s time to shout out where I saw those movies. At the same time, it could be a free commercial for Smodcastle Cinemas — two birds, one stone, or two birds, one seed as my kid said.

    Ken Jeong as Manager Mike in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Ken Jeong as Manager Mike in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Moviefone: Finally, is it your policy as the owner now to look the other way if people sneak in and out of the auditoriums?

    Kevin Smith: 100%. In the end credits of ‘4:30 Movie’ I tell people, “Smodcastle Cinemas, go visit. Pay for one movie, hop around, go see as many movies you want. If you get caught tell Ernie I said it was okay.” As a film exhibitor I know how tough it is to get asses in seats, man. We had ‘Beetlejuice Beetlejuice’ open a couple of weeks ago, I asked Smodcastle keeper Ernie O’Donnell, the guy that runs the place, “How’d we do with ‘Beetlejuice’?” He goes, “Friday we had 50 tickets, Saturday we had 100.” That’s the whole day. That’s good for a brand-new movie for us. Really the stuff that tends to do well at our theaters is retro screenings. So like “Hey man, I’m going to show ‘Tusk’ and Justin Long’s here. Hey, we’re going to show ‘Mallrats’ and Jason Lee’s here.” I could sell out those screenings and stuff. But when it comes to just selling real movies on the daily they’ll prefer to go to other movie theaters that have the better seating and s**t like that. So anything to get people to head to our theater is a good thing. Hopefully, them going, “What, there was a movie shot here?” is just one more reason for them to come visit. This is a temple that taught me my craft. The thing that I would eventually spend my life doing, my vocation, was born by sitting in those seats. I sat in those seats with people that I dearly love, some of whom are not even around anymore, like my father. Keeping it alive, man. It started as like, “Hey, I’m a filmmaker, this makes sense having a movie theater.” Quentin [Tarantino]‘s got one. It’s a little harder to run a movie theater in suburban New Jersey in terms of getting talent to come out. When you’re in Hollywood people just live here. But I’ve been able to bring Hollywood to the theater over the course of the last two years. No more so than when we brought cameras in and started rolling. Now for the rest of my life, or as long as we own that movie theater, I’ll always be able to play ‘The 4:30 Movie’ there on a Sunday at 4:30 from now until the end of time. It’ll never stay in other movie theaters. Maybe they’ll do retro or rep house screenings of it one day. But in our theater it will always live. Very rarely does a movie theater get to be like, “The whole movie was shot here.” We’ll showcase that forever.

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    What is the plot of ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    Three teenage friends (Austin Zajur, Nicholas Cirillo and Reed Northrup) map out an afternoon outing to the local cineplex in the summer of 1986, but their plans to sneak into a new R-rated movie could be disrupted by the irritating theater owner and a host of other characters — not to mention one of the boys bringing his dream girl to the cinema as well.

    Who is in the cast of ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    • Austin Zajur as Brian David
    • Nicholas Cirillo as Burny
    • Reed Northrup as Belly
    • Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat
    • Justin Long as Stank
    • Jason Lee as Brian’s dad
    • Kate Micucci as Melody’s mom
    • Genesis Rodriguez as Usher
    • Ken Jeong as Manager Mike
    (L to R) Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    (L to R) Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

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  • Movie Review: ‘The 4:30 Movie’

    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Nicholas Cirillo as Burny and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Nicholas Cirillo as Burny and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Opening in theaters September 20th is ‘The 4:30 Movie,’ written and directed by Kevin Smith and starring Austin Zajur, Nicholas Cirillo, Reed Northrup, Siena Agudong, Jason Lee, Kate Micucci, Justin Long, Genesis Rodriguez, and Ken Jeong.

    Related Article: Director Kevin Smith Talks ‘Clerks III’ and the Legacy of the Franchise

    Initial Thoughts

    (L to R) Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    (L to R) Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat and Austin Zajur as Brian David in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    Moving away from the deconstructed horror and near-nihilistic meta comedy of his past few films (including the pure despair of his last one, ‘Clerks III’), Kevin Smith seems to be in a much better mood with ‘The 4:30 Movie,’ a semi-autobiographical teen comedy that draws heavily from his own early life and finds just enough of a sweet spot between his usual tasteless humor and some genuinely earnest coming-of-age romance to keep the film interesting and perhaps even attract a few new viewers to his walled cinematic garden.

    Smith’s latest joint benefits from nice performances by his young cast as well, which partially counteracts his usual tendency to park the camera and let scenes roll on for too long. At the same time, he can’t help but include a bunch of his trademark raunchy humor, and the list of guest stars from the vast canon of his View Askewniverse can be equal parts distracting, irritating, and funny.

    Story and Direction

    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    For those of us of a certain age who grew up in the New York/New Jersey area – as Kevin Smith did – “The 4:30 Movie” was a holy after-school ritual every day. Broadcast on the local ABC-TV affiliate (Channel 7, back in the prehistoric days when cable was something you towed a car with and streaming was what rain did down your windows), the program fit both theatrical and made-for-TV films into a daily 90-minute timeslot. The show’s themed weeks, in which it would show all five ‘Planet of the Apes’ films or a string of Godzilla features, were an essential part of many grade-schoolers’ film education.

    We suspect Smith was a fan of that ‘4:30 Movie’ too, but that’s not the nostalgia that his new film ‘The 4:30 Movie’ harvests, sadly. Instead, the title refers to the showtime of a new R-rated film playing at the local multiplex in the New Jersey town of Atlantic Highlands (near where Smith grew up) that three friends – film-obsessed Brian (Austin Zajur), ladies’ man Burny (Nicholas Cirillo), and seemingly dim yet observant Belly (Reed Northrup) – plan on sneaking into after paying to see an earlier PG movie they’ve watched before. But there’s a new wrinkle to the plan: Brian has also invited his crush Melody (Siena Agudong) along. After failing to go to second base (with her encouragement and permission) in her pool last summer, Brian has remained infatuated with Melody and wants to take her on a proper date…with his two best friends along for the trip.

    ‘The 4:30 Movie’ takes place in the summer of 1986, right in the midst of Smith’s teen years and clearly inspired by events from his own life (the film was shot at the cineplex in which it takes place, which Smith now owns). As with all Smith films, the plot is only a loose framework on which to hang a bunch of character interactions and random incidents, most of which feature walk-ons from Smith regulars like Rosario Dawson, Jason Lee, Justin Long, Harley Quinn Smith, and of course ‘Clerks’ stalwarts Jeff Anderson, Brian O’Halloran, and Jason Mewes (spoiler alert: they don’t play their regular characters here, but the movie is very much set in the View Askewniverse).

    Ken Jeong as Manager Mike in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Ken Jeong as Manager Mike in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    There are plenty of moments, characterizations, and jokes in ‘The 4:30 Movie’ that fall flat, just as there are others that are crude or, in the case of the overbearing, self-important multiplex owner Manager Mike (Ken Jeong), borderline offensive. But there is a sweetness at the heart of the movie, exemplified by the relationship between Brian and Melody. He is shy, horny, and immature, but respectful where it counts, while she is self-possessed, confident, wise beyond her years, and direct in her eagerness to be Brian’s girlfriend. Their blooming romance comes into direct collision with Brian’s relationship to his two bros, Burny and Belly, with Burny in particular having a dim view of the female species that one hopes he’ll eventually grow out of. The situation brings the friendship between the three to a head, changing their dynamic in ways they don’t see coming.

    Those are the best parts of ‘The 4:30 Movie,’ where Smith hits at some genuine emotional truth among teenagers who are just starting to brush up against the feelings and experiences that mark their transition to adulthood. Smith’s empathy for that, as well as his genuine affection for the time, place, and cultural zeitgeist in which the film is set, makes this one of his better movies in recent years. The rest of it – the inert camerawork, staid compositions, jokes that just dangle helplessly in the air – in a weird way, they’re part of the charm too this time.

    The Cast

    (L to R) Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith's ‘The 4:30 Movie'. Photo: Saban Films.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith’s ‘The 4:30 Movie’. Photo: Saban Films.

    Whether it’s the aging semi-professional slackers of ‘Clerks III’ or the insipid leads of ‘Yoga Hosers,’ Kevin Smith has a knack for casting people it can sometimes be difficult to watch. With ‘The 4:30 Movie,’ however, his two leads – Austin Zajur as Brian and Siena Agudong as Melody – are two of his better choices. Agudong in particular is a potential star in the making, radiating intelligence, charisma, and warmth, while Zajur is quite effective himself as a teen pulled in several directions while trying to find his own.

    Nick Cirillo and Reed Northrup both show their own flashes of wit and depth as Brian’s friends, with Northrup in particular having a standout scene late in the game. As for the rest of the cast – well, it’s a wonder than Ken Jeong manages to eke out some memorably funny lines and even a moment of humanity or two as the otherwise abrasive Manager Mike, while Genesis Rodriguez gets a brief spotlight as a box office cashier with a secret of her own. Everyone else – Smith’s usual coterie of pals and repertoire players – more or less walks through and waves.

    Final Thoughts

    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Austin Zajur as Brian David and Nicholas Cirillo as Burny in the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup as Belly, Austin Zajur as Brian David and Nicholas Cirillo as Burny in the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

    As we said above, ‘The 4:30 Movie’ is not likely to be a game-changer for Kevin Smith – he might gain a few more viewers for this one, but his style of filmmaking is what it is, and his fanbase is pretty much entrenched. When you sit down for a Kevin Smith film, you know what you’re going to get, and you’re either open to navigating that or not.

    Having said that, this movie does have a lot more warmth to it that his last few outings, and while Smith always pours his heart into his films, that heart comes through a little more clearly here. It’s an ode to what he himself describes in a long end-credits thank-you list as a “happy childhood,” and there are moments that many of us can relate to here (including sneaking from the PG movie into the R-rated one). Now we’d like to see a film about ABC’s “4:30 Movie” as well.

    ‘The 4:30 Movie’ receives 6.5 out of 10 stars.

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    What is the plot of ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    Three teenage friends (Austin Zajur, Nicholas Cirillo and Reed Northrup) map out an afternoon outing to the local cineplex in the summer of 1986, but their plans to sneak into a new R-rated movie could be disrupted by the irritating theater owner and a host of other characters — not to mention one of the boys bringing his dream girl to the cinema as well.

    Who is in the cast of ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    • Austin Zajur as Brian David
    • Nicholas Cirillo as Burny
    • Reed Northrup as Belly
    • Siena Agudong as Melody Barnegat
    • Justin Long as Stank
    • Jason Lee as Brian’s dad
    • Kate Micucci as Melody’s mom
    • Genesis Rodriguez as Usher
    • Ken Jeong as Manager Mike
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, 'The 4:30 Movie', a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith behind the scenes of the Romantic Comedy, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Ralph Bavaro.

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  • Kevin Smith Announces New Comedy ‘The 4:30 Movie’

    Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith's ‘The 4:30 Movie'.
    (L to R) Reed Northrup, Nicholas Cirillo and Austin Zajur in director Kevin Smith’s ‘The 4:30 Movie’. Photo: Saban Films.

    Preview:

    • Kevin Smith has shot new comedy ‘The 4:30 Movie’.
    • A new coming-of-age saga about three teen friends, it’s set in 1986.
    • Smith will tour the movie this summer ahead of a theatrical release.

    Kevin Smith has made a career riffing on pop culture and channeling nostalgia, along with a steady stream of stoner gags.

    With his time in the ‘Clerks’ universe apparently over for a while, Kevin Smith has turned his attention to an original movie. His latest, ‘The 4:30 Movie’, might sound like it’s headed back in a weed direction (but it’s not ‘The 4:20 Movie), but is instead founded upon his own teenage love of cinema.

    And now the coming-of-age movie has a distribution deal, with Saban Films.

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    What’s the story of ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    Set in the summer of 1986, the coming-of-age comedy follows three sixteen-year-old friends (played by Austin Zajur, Nicholas Cirillo and Reed Northrup) who spend their Saturdays sneaking into movies at the local multiplex. But when one of the guys also invites the girl of his dreams (Siena Agudong) to see the latest comedy, each of the teens will learn something serious about life and love before the credits roll.

    Who else is in ‘The 4:30 Movie’?

    Justin Long as Hap Jackson in the thriller, 'House of Darkness.'
    Justin Long as Hap Jackson in the thriller, ‘House of Darkness,’ a Saban Films release. Photo courtesy of Saban Films.

    To support the young leads, Smith has recruited several returning veterans of his other movies and some new faces. The other cast includes Ken Jeong, Sam Richardson, Genesis Rodriguez, Justin Long, Jason Lee, Rachel Dratch, Kate Micucci, Adam Pally, Harley Quinn Smith and Method Man.

    Related Article: Director Kevin Smith Talks ‘Clerks III’ and the Legacy of the Franchise

    What has Kevin Smith said about his new movie?

    'Clerks III' director and writer Kevin Smith.
    ‘Clerks III’ director and writer Kevin Smith.

    As with the original ‘Clerks’, which was famously shot at night in the convenience store where Smith worked in his 20s, ‘The 4:30 Movie’ utilized the Smodcastle Cinema that the director owns. A cinema, in fact, in New Jersey where he used to visit as a teenager himself.

    This is what he told Deadline:

    “The day we bought Smodcastle Cinemas, I not only reclaimed an integral piece of my childhood, I also suddenly had access to a visually interesting and cost-free movie location! So I started writing a personal paean to the past for us 70’s and 80’s kids –– the pre-information generation who grew up without the Internet, when romance and relationships required much more than a swipe to get started, and the idea of asking out someone you had a crush on was as terrifying as the looming threat of nuclear war.”

    When will ‘The 4:30 Movie’ be in theaters?

    Smith is returning to a release policy that has worked for him in the past –– he’s taking the new movie out on a roadshow tour this summer. Then, it’ll be released nationwide in theaters, but a date has yet to be announced.

    Director/Writer Kevin Smith on the set of the comedy, 'Clerks III.'
    Director/Writer Kevin Smith on the set of the comedy, ‘Clerks III,’ a Lionsgate release. Photo courtesy of John Bayer/Lionsgate.

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  • ‘She-Hulk: Attorney At Law’ Episode 5 Recap

    Renée Elise Goldsberry as Mallory Book and Tatiana Maslany as Jennifer "Jen" Walters/She-Hulk in Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.'
    (L-R): Renée Elise Goldsberry as Mallory Book and Tatiana Maslany as Jennifer “Jen” Walters/She-Hulk in Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney at Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo courtesy of Marvel Studios. © 2022 Marvel.

    After ending Wong’s (Benedict Wong) case last week, let’s move onto episode 5 of ‘She-Hulk: Attorney at Law’ – “Mean, Green, and Straight Poured into These Jeans!”

    We begin by seeing a commercial from Titania (Jameela Jamil), who is using the name “She-Hulk” for her new makeup line, which claims to help bring out the “inner beauty” of people. It’s everywhere; a billboard, commercials, even a pop up. We cut to Jennifer’s (Tatiana Maslany) apartment where her cousin Ched (Nicholas Cirillo) breaks in and asks her to sign boxes of the makeup.

    He mentions that not trademarking her name was dumb and explains to her how the law works. Jennifer yells into a pillow in anger. Jennifer and Nikki (Ginger Gonzaga) go to the pop-up, in hopes of confronting Titania. But she just makes fun of Jen, and the lawyers are unable to do anything there.

    Back at the office, Jennifer says, “I’m still Jennifer Walters, She-Hulk is just something that happened to me,” and starts naming all the good aspects of being a Hulk. Nikki points out how she’s showing a bit of anger by crushing office equipment.

    Josh Segarra as Pug and Ginger Gonzaga as Nikki Ramos in Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney At Law.'
    (L-R): Josh Segarra as Pug and Ginger Gonzaga as Nikki Ramos in Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney At Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. © 2022 Marvel.

    Nikki is approached by Pug (Josh Segarra) and asked to sit with him on a sneaker drop, for a pair called the “Iron Man 3’s.” She pokes fun at him for collecting shoes that he isn’t going to wear. He mentions a man named Alonzo who can get anything fashion wise, and Nikki asks if he could find clothes for a “superhuman sized person.”

    Jennifer is watching Titania thank her fans. “I’m over it. I really am,” she tells the audience.

    Nikki and Pug go to where Alonzo sends them, which is a Boba café, not a clothing store. The man who works there goes into the back and invites them in, but it’s really all bootleg Avengers merch. After demanding to see the real superhero designer, Luke Jacobson (Griffin Matthews), they are questioned, and they lie, saying that Titania sent them.

    That doesn’t work, and they lie once again and say that the clothes are for an Avenger. Jacobson even calls them out via the camera at his office for being huge dorks and dancing after he agrees to the appointment.

    Renée Elise Goldberry as Mallory Book in Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney At Law.'
    Renée Elise Goldberry as Mallory Book in Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney At Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. ©Marvel Studios 2022. All Rights Reserved.

    Jennifer is sitting with her boss (Steve Coulter), who asks about the billboards around town with She-Hulk on them. He says that she is the face of their business, and this could destroy everything. He assigns her an attorney, Mallory Book (Renée Elise Goldsberry) and she isn’t exactly happy doing it.

    She-Hulk mentions that no other superhero had to trademark their name. Mallory assigns Nikki to help change her look, saying that Jennifer’s current clothing make her look like a football player.

    We cut to court, and Book works her butt off to put the judge on their side, providing a killer argument to why Titania messed up in trademarking the name. But Titania’s lawyer pulls out footage of Jennifer saying that she doesn’t like the name, yet Book comes back with more footage, going blow for blow.

    The judge agrees to break for a few days, and Nikki takes Jennifer to meet with the clothing designer. She talks Jacobson into helping them, and he asks what superhero thing she does. He explains he makes combat suits, and she tells him that she’s just a lawyer.

    Griffin Matthews as Luke Jacobson and Ginger Gonzaga as Nikki Ramos in Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.'
    (L-R): Griffin Matthews as Luke Jacobson and Ginger Gonzaga as Nikki Ramos in Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney at Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo courtesy of Marvel Studios. © 2022 Marvel.

    Nikki says she needs the suit to fit both Jennifer’s She-Hulk body and her human body, and he agrees to make her something. They go back to the office, and she spots the guy she went on a date with in the last episode who had the “superhero fetish.”

    He claims to be a client and asks to reconnect with her, Jennifer very much not wanting that. Jennifer and Nikki discuss the dates she had while being She-Hulk, and she realizes that using the men she went on a date with would help her in court.

    Book comes to court with her dating profile, showing how she used She-Hulk to get herself a date. But her dates really help, explaining how she was She-Hulk to them, including Derek (David Otunga) who left her that morning, even admitting he would have never dated Jennifer to begin with.

    The judge sides with Jennifer, basically halting Titania’s huge product line. As they walk out, Jennifer jokes that she needs to schedule therapy. But Book stops her, mentioning how Derek looked at her weird after he explained not liking her as a normal human. “You can do better,” Mallory tells her.

    Jameela Jamil as Titania in Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney At Law.'
    Jameela Jamil as Titania in Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney At Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. © 2022 Marvel.

    Jennifer invites her to drinks as a thank you, and Book jokes how she’s never seen a lawyer embarrass herself in court like that to win a case. Jen laughs about how their friends now and is baffled that she said it out loud. Mallory mentions her clothes before leaving.

    She-Hulk goes to see her new suits, and Jacobson pulls out “something extra” for her. He goes to pick up an open box, yelling about client confidentiality. In it, is a gold Daredevil helmet. Episode ends.

    Now a lot of people who followed the Netflix ‘Daredevil’ series obviously know why seeing the iconic helmet is so important. It’s been a few years since the streaming service unveiled the beginning of its own Marvel Universe, introducing us to ‘Iron Fist,’ ‘Luke Cage,’ ‘Jessica Jones’ and ‘Daredevil.’

    Charlie Cox solidified his role in the dark, gritty and violent series, and his seemingly never-ending fight with Vincent D’Onofrio’s Kingpin became one of the most iconic hero versus villain stories that Marvel had put on screen to that point.

    Charlie Cox as Daredevil and Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin on Netflix/Marvel's 'Daredevil.'
    (L to R) Charlie Cox as Daredevil and Vincent D’Onofrio as Kingpin on Netflix/Marvel’s ‘Daredevil.’

    When Disney took back the rights to the franchise and the show was removed from Netflix, fans were worried we’d never get to relive the stories told on the platform. But just this year, Disney+ raised the bar for streaming and released every Netflix MCU show in one day, showing fans they did indeed care for the darker, more grittier series.

    With Cox returning to the Matt Murdock role he popularized on Netflix in “She-Hulk”, a new generation of fans who never witnessed the time Marvel paired up with Netflix can appreciate honestly what is one of the best casting decisions made in the universe so far. Plus, we’re getting Cox and D’Onofrio back in the recently announced ‘Daredevil: Born Again.’ Starting production next year.

    With the fantastic reveal at the end of this episode, we can only imagine what’s coming next week. Hopefully I’ll see you all there!

    Tatiana Maslany and Ginger Gonzaga on the set of Marvel Studios' 'She-Hulk: Attorney At Law.'
    (L-R): Tatiana Maslany and Ginger Gonzaga on the set of Marvel Studios’ ‘She-Hulk: Attorney At Law,’ exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. ©Marvel Studios 2022. All Rights Reserved.