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  • ‘Thieves Highway’ Interview: Aaron Eckhart and Jesse V. Johnson

    Aaron Eckhart in 'Thieves Highway'. Photo: SSS Entertainment.
    Aaron Eckhart in ‘Thieves Highway’. Photo: SSS Entertainment.

    Opening in theaters on December 12th and on digital December 16th is the new thriller ‘Thieves Highway‘, which was directed by Jesse V. Johnson (‘Chief of Station’), and stars Aaron Eckhart (‘The Dark Knight’ and ‘Sully’), Lochlyn Munro (‘Peacemaker’), Brooke Langton (‘The Replacements’), Devon Sawa (‘Final Destination’), and legendary rapper The D.O.C.

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    Moviefone recently had the pleasure of speaking with Aaron Eckhart and director Jesse V. Johnson about their work on ‘Thieves Highway’, why it’s not a modern Western, Eckhart’s research and his approach to his character, shooting the action sequences, working with The D.O.C., and why Eckhart and Johnson love making movies together.

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    Aaron Eckhart in 'Thieves Highway'. Photo: SSS Entertainment.
    Aaron Eckhart in ‘Thieves Highway’. Photo: SSS Entertainment.

    Moviefone: To begin with, Jesse, the movie plays like a modern Western with a lone sheriff pitted against a gang of outlaws. Was that what you were going for and what were the themes you wanted to explore with this movie?

    Jesse V. Johnson: I was very much trying not to make it a modern Western. I was trying to make it a modern film, set in our present times, but somehow it kept touching on those same philosophies. So, I guess it worked itself in, but the truth of the matter is once it was all said and done, I saw that. When I was sitting with Sean Murray, the composer, we were trying various motifs and banging away at that. Finally, I think I saw a meme, or something came through on Instagram, and it was the ‘High Noon’ theme. I said, “Sean, you’ve got to use this. This is perfect.” He worked that into it. So, I guess in my heart and soul, it was always a modern revisionist kind of Western. I had tried very hard to keep it as modern as possible, but yes, that moral compass, the sense of duty, the sense of isolation, losing the cell phone and you’re in a place where you can’t rely on technology, you must rely very much on your own human resources. I think all of us, men anyway, of a certain age, we all strive for a little bit of that in our lives. Like, if I just woke up and I didn’t have to go to work at 8:30am, if I could just go out onto the planes and go my horse and round up cows, everything would be so much simpler. I hear ex-military telling me, “God, I just wish I was back inside,” because it’s so complicated. I think we live in complicated times, and I think people like that simplicity.

    MF: Aaron, can you talk about the research you did into wildlife enforcement and how that information informed your performance?

    Aaron Eckhart: Well, I live on a ranch. I own a ranch, I have cows on my ranch, and I also have two ranchers that live right next to me, who have 400 pair and one guy has no fences, so his cows are all over the road, all the time. Come to find out that they do get stolen. People come with panel vans, and they see a little calf, and they just put the calf in the panel van, they go an hour or two down the road and they can sell it at auction for cash. So, you can pick up a thousand bucks, literally, in maybe two or three hours. So, it’s real. In fact, I talked to my local sheriff about it too, and he had just busted two guys that had been doing that on my road. Of course, they didn’t shoot them like they used to, you know they’d just shoot them in the old days. But it’s still alive and well, unfortunately, so there must be people that deal with it.

    Aaron Eckhart in 'Thieves Highway'. Photo: SSS Entertainment.
    Aaron Eckhart in ‘Thieves Highway’. Photo: SSS Entertainment.

    MF: Can you talk about Frank’s moral compass and why he just can’t let this one go?

    AE: This what I like about the character, he’s an old-fashioned lawman. That’s what he is. He grew up on the range. He grew up around all these ranchers, and he’s got it in his soul. That’s what he is, he’s an old boot. There’s a code out here and as more people come in that don’t know the code, it gets more difficult and more complicated. But that code is a very important code because it’s tied into people’s livelihoods, their dreams, their hard work, that don’t get vacations, that must wake up at 5am and feed the animals, that care for the animals and have an emotional and financial investment in those animals. So, I wanted to bring that in and the idea that there are consequences to your actions. You know, out here, it’s different and then when my partner gets murdered, it’s game on.

    MF: Jesse, I know you and Aaron have worked together before, can you talk about your filmmaking partnership and what he brings to set as an actor?

    JVJ: Working with Aaron is one of the great privileges of my career. I love working with him. He forces me to rise and be a better director. He does the same thing with the supporting cast and the crew members because they see this guy turning up early, absolutely committed to what he’s doing, always ready to go, with ideas, at the peak of physical readiness always, and never complaining. You know, riling people up, giving them the enthusiasm to do work that they didn’t think they had in them. This is something very rare and when you collaborate like that, you find a partner like that, you hang on with your dear life, with your claws, because it’s the most important thing for a director, the leading man. I’ve been out there with a leading man who is not interested, who was less than motivated, who was doing it for the money, and who was phoning it in. I’ve done everything in my book to try and get their enthusiasm in the project, and it’s met with a blank stare. They have too much going on, maybe a divorce, maybe something else, maybe child payments, whatever, and you can’t reach them. It’s a failure on my part as a director. When you find someone like Aaron, you know, I’m very lucky over these collaborations, it brings everything and challenges. We’re there in the morning talking about what’s going to happen during the day, how we’re going to handle it. Aaron wants to know how I’m going to shoot it, how many takes, are we going to use a stunt double, and am I going to let Aaron do it? Which, by the way, is usually the question, because he won’t let stuntmen come in and do his part. This is how committed and how invested he is in making a good movie, a good character, and this is wonderful. So, for my part, I feel extraordinarily lucky, and I will keep making movies with Aaron for as long as he puts up with me.

    (L to R) Aaron Eckhart and Lochlyn Munro in 'Thieves Highway'. Photo: SSS Entertainment.
    (L to R) Aaron Eckhart and Lochlyn Munro in ‘Thieves Highway’. Photo: SSS Entertainment.

    MF: Aaron, what do you enjoy about working with Jesse and why is he a great filmmaking partner for you?

    AE: Well, you can see his passion, he cares so deeply, and you must put it all out there. I was thinking, while Jesse was speaking, I always think, we’re so fortunate to be given this money and this time and these people to make this movie. Very few people on Earth can do that at whatever level. So, we must take that gift and we must maximize every single second of it. We must appreciate it, and we must augment it. We have to amp it up, bring in energy and excitement, because we’re lucky. We’re lucky to do this, so we can never take it for granted. Jesse’s like that. If I have an idea, if he has an idea, let’s do this, let’s do that. Let’s always be thinking. Jesse’s always right there for me. That’s important because that’s the relationship that counts the most, is the director and the actor. I need to look at Jess and go, if I don’t do it, he’s going to do it. He’ll go out there and do the fight. He’ll go ride the horse. That’s the kind of director I like to work with.

    MF: Aaron, can you talk about Frank’s partnership with Aksel in the movie, and what it was like sharing those scenes with legendary rapper The D.O.C.?

    AE: He gives a beautiful performance, smooth as silk, just right there, grounded. I didn’t know any of this, I live under a rock but just his voice, his demeanor, and how kind he is as a real person. But he embodied it, and set the pace for it, which was wonderful. He was he was up for everything. He’s just got a great presence and effortless really. That’s what an actor strives for is an effortlessness, and it’s magnetic.

    MF: Jesse, can you talk about casting and directing The D.O.C.?

    JVJ: He is the most humbled human being you’ve ever met. We just talk about the character and the movie. The only time there was any kind of resistance, he just told me, “I don’t really like guns, Jesse. I don’t like them very much. You’ll have to talk me through that stuff.” He was very concerned about looking as good as he could with a gun, and it was just lovely. It was a lovely relationship, and he was a gentle, creative soul, who’s very about the process of writing and creating. I really liked working with him. I wasn’t familiar with this work. He was hired because he’d done another film for the producers. I felt he just did a really good job, and so many people have enjoyed his performance in this.

    Aaron Eckhart in 'Thieves Highway'. Photo: SSS Entertainment.
    Aaron Eckhart in ‘Thieves Highway’. Photo: SSS Entertainment.

    MF: Aaron, can you talk about preparing for the action sequences?

    AE: I always like to fight. It’s good fighting, shooting, running, always trying to bring energy to the set, whatever it is. That’s my job. So, to hit, take a hit, get down, get dirty, that’s just what I’m there for. I want the audience to see me doing the fights, see me with the cows or whatever I’m doing. That’s important to me.

    MF: Finally, Jesse, can you talk about executing the action sequences and the challenges of having to wrangle all the cows and horses for this movie?

    JVJ: Cows, horses, trucks with trailers, two miles square sets. It was a lot more ambitious than I thought going into it. But Aaron follows my tastes, which are practical effects and practical stunts. I work with some of the very best stunt coordinators, fight choreographers and car guys in the business. We watch and we plan, and we rehearse. Ultimately, I think the audience is there to see a show and they want to want to know that someone is in jeopardy. They want to feel that visceral buzz of knowing that someone is taking a risk here. If everything looks safe, it tends to be reflected on the actor’s face in their focus and on their eyes, and they’re pretending the environment around them exists. But if you put them in a real environment in cold water, up to their knees, fighting with a very aggressive stuntman, then he is really throwing those kicks and punches. Aaron wants to be in there, and he wants to roll up his sleeves. This is the kind of stuff that I grew up watching and being on the edge of my seat. This is what we’re trying to capture, and this is what it takes. There’s so much reliance on visual effects. This is my continual battle, but thankfully, I think I found a conspirator in Aaron, and we love that kind of filmmaking. It’s a challenge but it’s exciting. We want to put on a show to entertain people.

    'Thieves Highway' opens in theaters on December 12th and on digital December 16th.
    ‘Thieves Highway’ opens in theaters on December 12th and on digital December 16th.

    What is the plot of ‘Thieves Highway’?

    After discovering a plot to haul stolen cattle in the middle of nowhere, a desperate and isolated lawman (Aaron Eckhart) becomes the only thing standing between a group of dangerous rustlers and a clear run to the border.

    Who is in the cast of ‘Thieves Highway’?

    • Aaron Eckhart as Frank Bennett
    • Lochlyn Munro as Bill
    • Brooke Langton as Sylvia
    • Lucy Martin as Peggy
    • Devon Sawa as Johnny
    • The D.O.C as Aksel
    Actor Aaron Eckhart attends the 2010 Governors Awards in the Grand Ballroom at Hollywood & Highland in Hollywood¨, CA, Saturday, November 13. Credit/Provider: Matt Petit / ©A.M.P.A.S. Copyright: ©A.M.P.A.S.
    Actor Aaron Eckhart attends the 2010 Governors Awards in the Grand Ballroom at Hollywood & Highland in Hollywood¨, CA, Saturday, November 13. Credit/Provider: Matt Petit / ©A.M.P.A.S. Copyright: ©A.M.P.A.S.

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  • Movie Review: ‘Heart Eyes’

    The Heart Eyes killer from Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    The Heart Eyes killer from Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    ‘Heart Eyes’ receives 6.5 out of 10 stars.

    Opening in theaters February 7 is ‘Heart Eyes,’ directed by Josh Ruben and starring Olivia Holt, Mason Gooding, Gigi Zumbado, Michaela Watkins, Devon Sawa, and Jordana Brewster.

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    Initial Thoughts

    The Heart Eyes killer from Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    The Heart Eyes killer from Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    Forget “elevated” horror. The last few years have seen a new crop of self-aware horror comedies populated (in varying degrees) by likable if often socially inept protagonists, copious amounts of gore played for laughs, a smattering of pop culture references, and a deluge of ironic needle drops. Think ‘Happy Death Day,’ ‘Freaky,’ and ‘It’s a Wonderful Knife,’ and now add ‘Heart Eyes’ to that list.

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise that two of the writers of ‘Heart Eyes’ are Christopher Landon, who directed and wrote ‘Death Day’ and ‘Freaky,’ and Michael Kennedy, who co-wrote ‘Freaky’ and penned ‘Knife.’ With director Josh Ruben (‘Werewolves Within’) at the helm, much of ‘Heart Eyes’ feels a lot in tone and aesthetic like those other films. ‘Heart Eyes’ is entertaining, with two charismatic leads at its center and a number of laughs (if no real scares), but it also feels like it adheres to a formula set down by those earlier pictures (and even going back to the likes of ‘Scream’) without adding any particularly new wrinkles.

    Story and Direction

    (L to R) Jordana Brewster as Detective Jeanine, director Josh Ruben, and Mason Gooding as Jay on the set of Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    (L to R) Jordana Brewster as Detective Jeanine, director Josh Ruben, and Mason Gooding as Jay on the set of Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    If there is anything different about ‘Heart Eyes,’ it’s that the film more or less functions as a rom-com in conjunction with its slasher narrative. The latter is introduced in the opening scene, when a couple and their photographer are turned into bloody human debris by the title killer, who strikes on Valentine’s Day (a nod to slasher classics like ‘My Bloody Valentine’) and wears a pretty neat mask with two glowing hearts as eyes (which also nicely double as night-vision goggles). HEK, as the murderer is known, tends to visit various cities and slice up as many romantic couples as possible on the annual holiday for reasons that chattering heads on news programs endlessly debate.

    While weary detectives Hobbs (Devon Sawa) and Shaw (Jordana Brewster) – yes, you read that rather pointless ‘Fast and Furious’ reference right – try to determine who HEK is before he lays more waste to the dating scene in Seattle, we switch to the rom-com portion of our story, in which recently single marketing exec Ally (Olivia Holt) has a meet-cute (with a bit of blood involved) in a coffee shop with the outrageously handsome, alluring Jay (Mason Gooding). But the “cute” part dissipates when Ally finds out a short time later that Jay has been hired by her boss (Michaela Watkins) to salvage a Valentine’s Day campaign launched by Ally that rather tastelessly links the holiday to dead lovers.

    Jay pours on the charm despite their new circumstances, while Ally – who has some rather bitter opinions about love – wants to keep things professional even though she’s attracted to her new colleague. She slips up, however, when she spontaneously kisses Jay during a chance meeting with her ex and his new squeeze. That lip-lock, unfortunately, is also spied by the Heart Eyes Killer, who mistakes Jay and Ally for a real couple and decides to set his glowing sights on them – even as they try to convince him otherwise as they attempt to fight him and his formidable array of deadly weapons off.

    (L to R) Gigi Zumbado as Monica, and Olivia Holt as Ally in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    (L to R) Gigi Zumbado as Monica, and Olivia Holt as Ally in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    The plot takes a few twists and turns from there, with Jay briefly (and implausibly) considered a suspect in the killings and a few red herrings thrown into the mix. The violence is grisly but handled in glib fashion (although we’re getting a bit tired of the “camera pulls back through a bloody hole in a body” shot), designed to generate both laughs and groans of disgust, and while the movie does pick up a decent amount of energy and momentum, it develops a stop-and-start quality in its third (and fourth, sort of) acts, with a too-long sequence in a police station and a convoluted, not especially impressive climactic revelation of who’s behind HEK’s mask and what their game is.

    Even if the slasher tropes feel a little threadbare, the rom-com conventions actually help pick the film up, from a “getting dressed for a date” montage to a ticking-clock pursuit in an airport. On the other hand, an extended slaughter at a drive-in feels labored (it goes on forever with HEK openly filleting people and not a cop in sight), as does the ending, a fault more on the page than in Ruben’s mostly efficient direction, which offers up some imaginative setpieces and kills earlier on.

    The Cast

    (L to R) Olivia Holt as Ally and Mason Gooding as Jay in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    (L to R) Olivia Holt as Ally and Mason Gooding as Jay in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    Singer and actress Olivia Holt rose through the Disney and Freeform ranks (doing time in Marvel series ‘Cloak and Dagger’ and ‘Runaways’) before graduating to her first slasher comedy vehicle opposite Kiernan Shipka in 2023’s ‘Totally Killer.’ The young thespian clearly has chops as she balances the many sides of the surprisingly well-written Ally. She’s terrific at the physical comedy and double-takes, while also bringing needed vulnerability and empathy to a woman whose views on love have been soured in both her childhood and adult life.

    Holt has fine presence and a real spark, and importantly shares great chemistry with Gooding, who’s been a supporting player in the recent ‘Scream’ outings but hasn’t really had a chance to shine. He gets his chance here, not only playing well off Holt but bringing shades of complexity to a role that could have easily been one-dimensional. Jay’s unabashed but non-toxic romanticism has its own troubled origins, and the fact that he and Ally come to each other from extreme ends of the emotional spectrum makes the tension between them both palpable and affecting.

    Gigi Zumbado blasts off like a rocket as Ally’s best friend, Monica, although her character rehashes the “brash best friend” trope that also seems to be a staple of recent horror-comedy fare. What she lacks in depth she makes up in charisma and good humor, although there could be more to the character. Meanwhile, Michaela Watkins channels a more dazed ‘Devil Wears Prada’-era Meryl Streep as Ally’s boss, and while it’s nice to see Jordana Brewster get out of the shadow of the ‘Fast and Furious’ franchise, her Detective Shaw has dating and motivational problems of her own.

    Final Thoughts

    (L to R) Jordana Brewster as Detective Jeanine, Devon Sawa as Detective Zeke Hobbs and Mason Gooding as Jay in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'. Photo: Christopher Moss.
    (L to R) Jordana Brewster as Detective Jeanine, Devon Sawa as Detective Zeke Hobbs and Mason Gooding as Jay in Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’. Photo: Christopher Moss.

    As slasher comedies go, ‘Heart Eyes’ is a perfectly good time. The leads are effortlessly watchable and appealing, the kills channel some of the macabre fun inherent in the best of the genre, and Josh Ruben manages to maintain a consistent level of energy throughout the proceedings. Yet the tone fluctuates here and there, and the script is less sharply written than some of its predecessors and even current genre cousins like ‘Companion,’ resulting in a film with a muddled message.

    If it’s a hit, however, you might expect to see those glowing heart eyes again at some point, and in the meantime we hope that the likes of Landon, Kennedy, Ruben, et al. don’t settle for formula as they further explore genre mash-ups like this.

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    What is the plot of ‘Heart Eyes’?

    Professional colleagues Ally (Olivia Holt) and Jay (Mason Gooding) find themselves trying to outwit and outrun the Heart Eyes killer, who slaughters couples on Valentine’s Day and mistakes the pair for romantic partners.

    Who is in the cast of ‘Heart Eyes’?

    • Olivia Holt as Ally McCabe
    • Mason Gooding as Jay Simmonds
    • Gigi Zumbado as Monica
    • Michaela Watkins as Crystal Cane
    • Devon Sawa as Detective Zeke Hobbs
    • Jordana Brewster as Detective Jeanine Shaw
    Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group's 'Heart Eyes'.
    Screen Gems and Spyglass Media Group’s ‘Heart Eyes’.

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