James Cameron is considering ideas for ‘Avatar’ animated spin-offs.
He hasn’t developed much yet but has broached the subject with Disney.
Third movie ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ hits screens on December 19th.
When James Cameron talks –– particularly when it comes to the subject of his multi-billion-dollar ‘Avatar’ franchise –– people listen.
So when Cameron recently talked about the potential for animated spin-offs from the movies (the third one, ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ is due later this year), it’s news.
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The filmmaker admitted he wasn’t very far in development with any of the ideas, but is certainly considering different options.
What did James Cameron say about ‘Avatar’ animated ideas?
Director James Cameron at D23 2024 presenting ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’. Photo: Disney.
Cameron revealed to Empire that he had discussed with 20th Century Studios owners/’Avatar’ backers Disney about the potential for spin-offs:
“ ‘I said, ‘Look, I want to do an animated anthology series that’s essentially in the world, but stories that you wouldn’t have expected from that world. There might even be an animated feature in there – it might be a feature for streaming, or a theatrical feature.”
He also looked for inspiration for other animated extensions of major sci-fi franchises such as ‘The Animatrix’:
“These are all great examples for how we can add texture and baroque detail to the world of ‘Avatar’. The animated stories could deliver backstory on characters and tangential stuff that happened off-camera within the movies. Who first landed on Pandora? The first expedition. You could go anywhere you want.”
Just don’t go expecting to see it in the next couple of years (because, let’s be honest, Cameron has been busy with the movies). Still, he’s certainly coming up with plans:
“We haven’t done much with that yet. We’re still gathering our stories and that sort of thing, and I’ve got to find the boutique filmmakers, the animators, that want to do it.”
Anyone want to work with James Cameron on a spin-off of some of the most famous movies in history? We’re thinking he’ll find one or two willing candidates…
Jake (Sam Worthington) and Neytiri’s (Zoe Saldana) family grapples with grief after Neteyam’s death, encountering a new, aggressive Na’vi tribe, the Ash People, who are led by the fiery Varang.
The conflict on Pandora escalates and a new moral focus emerges.
When will the new ‘Avatar’ movie be in theaters?
‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ will be with us on December 19th. Feliz Na’vi-dad!
Director James Cameron for ‘Avatar: The Way of Water.’
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James Cameron has talked about the future of ‘Avatar’.
He is working on the third now and has ideas for sixth and seventh entries.
The third movie is due in theaters in 2025.
James Cameron is still going full speed ahead on his ‘Avatar’ franchise. The sci-fi films, whose first two entries sit on the list of the first and third highest-grossing movies of all time, have sequels planned for years to come, with the third currently being shepherded through post-production.
And now, talking to People magazine at the Saturn Awards, Cameron has talked up the even further potential future of the movies.
Cameron is clearly committed to making more movies, but even he has his limits.
This is what he told the magazine about future entries…
“We’re fully written through movie five, and I’ve got ideas for six and seven, although I’ll probably be handing the baton on at that point. I mean, mortality catches up. But I mean, we’re enjoying what we’re doing. We’re loving it. We get to work with great people.”
Given that Cameron will be 76 by the time the fifth movie hits theaters, not to mention the long production process each entry requires, he’d likely be into his 80s by the time a sixth or seventh movie arrived.
Which is not to say he won’t somehow find a way to download his consciousness into a robotic body (though that might get a little too close to ‘Terminator’ for comfort) and keep going.
Still, Cameron has shown willingness to hand over projects in the past –– he was developing ‘Alita: Battle Angel’ for years but had Robert Rodriguez direct it as he was focusing on ‘Avatar’s sequels. So we’re sure he’s already started the process of looking for an heir to the ‘Avatar’ empire.
James Cameron on why he keeps making ‘Avatar’ movies
Cameron was his typically candid self when addressing the issue of fan concerns that he’s effectively dedicated the rest of his life to one franchise (even if the movies themselves do end up being wildly successful). He referenced other famous movie and TV series as his explanation.
Here’s what he said:
“People are always asking us, ‘So why did you just keep working in the same…’ Why did Lucas keep working in the same thing? Why did Roddenberry keep working in the same thing? Because when you connect with people, why would you squander that? Why would you start over with something else that might not connect?”
When will the next ‘Avatar’ movies be in theaters?
‘Avatar 3’ is set to be released on December 19th, 2025. The fourth is scheduled for December 21st, 2029, and ‘Avatar 5’ on December 19th, 2031.
The ongoing writers’ strike (and potential action from other guilds such as the actors’ union) is having a major impact on studio output. And Disney is not immune to changes in schedule. The company has announced that it is moving the release dates for a lot of its big upcoming movies, and that means we’ll all have to be patient when it comes to the likes of Marvel, James Cameron’s ‘Avatar’ and the ‘Star Wars’ galaxy.
Marvel, of course, has been delaying some of its films’ production and that is having a domino effect for the highly connected cinematic universe, which relies on films to set up the next entries. Lest the tapestry all unravel, that means moving some movies back.
And because there is only so much space on the calendar (and Disney seemingly already takes up a third of it), that means the next giant, phase-ending team-up movies are also on the move. ‘Avengers: The Kang Dynasty’ will be bumped back a year, to May 1st, 2026, inheriting the release date for follow-up ‘Avengers: Secret Wars’, which itself is headed to May 7th, 2027.
It’s not all delays for the MCU, though; ‘Deadpool 3’, which is in production, will move up from its original November 8th, 2024, date to May 3rd of that year.
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More ‘Avatar’ delays
‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ will be available exclusively to purchase on Digital March 28th.
Though James Cameron’s movies would seemingly not be impacted by a writers’ strike since their scripts are essentially finished, the series can’t avoid the release date shuffle.
That means ‘Avatar’ fans, already well used to the waiting game, will see their patience tested further, since ‘Avatar 3’ has moved to December 19th, 2025, ‘Avatar 4’ to December 21st, 2029, and ‘Avatar 5’ all the way to December 19th, 2031! which means the apparent final movie will land 22 years after the original 2009 film.
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New ‘Star Wars’ movie dates
(L to R) Director Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy and Daisy Ridley at Star Wars Celebration 2023.
If you were starting to wonder when we might ever see a new ‘Star Wars’ movie, then there’s good news.
2026 will see two movies set in that galaxy far, far away from Lucasfilm, one on May 22nd, 2026 (not the fourth?) and another set for the more traditional recent slot of December 18th that year.
A third film is reportedly headed our way on December 17th, 2027. Disney has yet to clarify any details of which of its in-development movies are taking those berths, but we can assume one is the Rey follow-up starring Daisy Ridley which has Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy in the director’s chair and was confirmed at Star Wars Celebration. On the basis of that, we can also predict that Dave Filoni’s film and possibly James Mangold‘s movie might be in the other two slots.
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Live-Action ‘Moana’ and more
Dwayne Johnson announces live-action ‘Moana.’ Courtesy of Walt Disney Studios.
There are also dates on the calendar now for films that didn’t have them previously –– the live-action ‘Moana’ is set to surface on June 27th, 2025, while Fede Álvarez’ movie set in the ‘Alien’ universe is arriving on August 16th next year. Espionage thriller ‘The Amateur’, starring Rami Malek, is set for November next year.
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Frustration ahead for film fans, then, but hopefully the movies will be worth the wait.
Rumored titles and release dates for director James Cameron’s upcoming ‘Avatar’ sequels.
‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ is sailing to success at the box office. On Wednesday, the film stood at domestic haul of $337.8 million and an International total of $762.8 million, and by the end of Thursday, it will have earned more than $1.1 billion, making it the second biggest hit of 2022, after ‘Top Gun: Maverick’.
With the other movies in James Cameron’s sci-fi franchise all at different stages of production, the future of the ‘Avatar’ universe seems assured, at least for the next decade or so.
Which means it must be time for the rumored titles of the movies, which surfaced way back in 2019 during the ‘Alita: Battle Angel’ (which Cameron co-wrote and produced) press tour.
Given the developments in ‘The Way of Water’, including that the Earth is worse off even than when it was portrayed in the 2009 original movie and revelations about teenage character Kiri’s (Sigourney Weaver) connections to mystical, powerful tree Eywa, it’s perhaps telling that ‘Seed Bearer’ and the tree’s name itself feature in potential future titles. The Tulkun, meanwhile, are the whale-like creatures from ‘The Way of Water’.
Sigourney Weaver plays Jake and Neytiri’s adopted teenage Na’vi daughter In ‘Avatar: The Way of Water.’ Photo courtesy of Empire Magazine.
We’ll have to wait and see whether the names change completely or shift slightly closer to each movie’s release. Whether it ends up titled ‘The Seed Bearer’ or something else, the third Avatar movie will be in theaters on December 20th, 2024.
Further forward we’ve learned a tiny nugget about the fifth film from producer Jon Landau. “I wasn’t going to talk about it, but I’ve now subsequently heard that Jim has talked about it a little bit,” Landau told IGN. In movie five there is a section of the story where we go to Earth. And we go to it to open people’s eyes, open Neytiri’s eyes, to what exists on Earth.”
It’s worth a mention that in the same interview, Landau shot down the other titles. “We have decided on titles, but I would not go by those other three titles that were out there,” he said. “You know, if you roll the dice one in six times, you’ll pick the right number.”
To turn attention back for a moment to where we currently stand, ‘The Way of Water’, and co-writer/director Cameron has been talking about what didn’t make the final cut in the latest film. Turns out it was some of the violence in the movie.
“I actually cut about 10 minutes of the movie targeting gunplay action,” Cameron told Esquire Middle East. “I wanted to get rid of some of the ugliness, to find a balance between light and dark. You have to have conflict, of course. Violence and action are the same thing, depending on how you look at it. This is the dilemma of every action filmmaker, and I’m known as an action filmmaker.”
It is certainly a surprising sentiment coming from a man whose movie characters have mown down many in their time, but he has certainly switch perspective in the intervening years. “I look back on some films that I’ve made, and I don’t know if I would want to make that film now. I don’t know if I would want to fetishize the gun, like I did on a couple of ‘Terminator’ movies 30-plus years ago, in our current world. What’s happening with guns in our society turns my stomach.” Hasta la vista, weapons.
Courtesy of 20th Century Studios.
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Once again written and directed by groundbreaking filmmaker James Cameron, the new film picks up more than a decade after the original and sees Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and his family escaping from the return of Colonel Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang), and looking for refuge with the reef people clan of Metkayina, a water-dwelling species on Pandora.
In addition to Worthington and Lang, the film also welcomes back Zoe Saldana as Neytiri, CCH Pounder as Mo’at, and Giovanni Ribisi as Parker Selfridge, as well as Sigourney Weaver as new character Kiri, who is the daughter of Dr. Grace Augustine’s avatar.
Joining the cast are Edie Falco as General Frances Ardmore, Jermaine Clement as Dr. Ian Garvin, Cliff Curtis as Tonowari the leader of the Metkayina, and reuniting with Cameron for the first time since ‘Titanic,’ Kate Winslet as Tonowari’s wife, Ronal.
Also joining the cast for the sequel are Jamie Flatters and Britain Dalton as Jake and Neytiri’s sons, Neteyam and Lo’ak, respectively. Trinity Bliss plays Jake and Neytiri’s daughter Tuk, while Bailey Bass and Filip Geljo play Tonowari and Ronal’s children, Reya and Aonung, respectively. Finally, Jack Champion joins the cast as Spider, the long lost son of Miles Quaritch.
Moviefone recently had the pleasure of traveling to London to sit down in-person with Oscar-winning director James Cameron and Oscar-winning actress Kate Winslet to talk about the work on ‘Avatar: The Way of Water.’
The filmmaker discussed the sequel, the challenges of making it, how the technology has changed since the original, and his plans for more sequels, while Winslet talked about reuniting with Cameron, joining the sequel, and learning to hold her breathe.
Kate Winslet stars in director James Cameron’s ‘Avatar: The Way of Water.’
You can read the full interview below or click on the video player above to watch our interviews with Cameron, Winslet, Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang, Jack Champion, Trinity Jo-Li Bliss, Jamie Flatters, and Bailey Bass.
MF: To begin with, Kate, what was it like for you to reunite with James Cameron for the first time since ‘Titanic’ on ‘Avatar: The Way of Water?’
Kate Winslet: Yeah, very long time ago. Yeah, it’s 26 years ago. It was amazing and absolutely incredible. The script was always going to be phenomenal because it’s ‘Avatar.’ Again, for Jim, it’s a world he created. He writes for women in a way that is extraordinary.
He always creates strong, not just female characters, but female leaders, women who are powerful mothers who lead with integrity. So, I just appreciated being asked. I was excited to jump in. I absolutely loved every minute of it. It was a wonderful experience.
MF: Director James Cameron has said that he knew he wanted to do a sequel to ‘Avatar’ pretty quickly after finishing the original. When did he ask you to be involved in the sequel?
KW: It was I guess quite a long time. He first mentioned something to me almost in passing back in 2014 or 2015. I guess it was around that time. I had seen him for an event in LA and he said, “Oh, we have to get you big and blue sometime.” I said, “Oh yeah, I’d love that.” The seed was sown.
Then in late 2017 was when he actually called and said, “I really do want to send you this script.” He described Ronal to me as being a female warrior goddess, and leader of a clan. I just thought, my God, if it really is that, this could be extraordinary.
I read the script and loved it, and was particularly taken by not only the elements of family and motherhood, but also this added physical challenge of learning how to free dive and breath hold, which I was just so excited by and not remotely daunted by. I had no fear around the idea of any of that. I just loved learning something new in my 40s.
It’s so funny, when you are young, you think you’ve learned all of the new things that you could learn, and as an adult, we close our minds off to the possibility of learning something new. So, to be in a situation that provided this wonderful opportunity for me was just amazing.
MF: I understand that you broke a record on set because you were able to hold your breath for seven minutes and 12 seconds, is that correct?
KW: Seven minutes and 14 seconds. You have to oxygenate your body, and there’s a whole breathing sequence that you do, and it’s quite a considerable process. It’s not to be tried at home and you cannot do it by yourself. Actually, that’s a very important safety thing.
You really mustn’t do it alone because what happens is when people surface from having held their breath, there’s a particular breathing sequence that you need to do the minute you hit the surface. If you don’t do that, you could be in danger of blacking out, and that’s when people run into trouble. That was the thing I learned, first of all, which we all did, was the safety. Once you know what you’re doing, it certainly makes things a lot easier.
I just loved the whole process. It was amazing. Yeah, seven minutes, 14 seconds. I was incredibly proud of myself and really determined that I was going to do it, I was going to do a big breath hold that day. I had my heart set on it. I even said to my husband, “Don’t come to work today to watch because I just don’t want the pressure of you being there.”
But actually, he was there. He snuck in and he actually videoed the last part of my breath hold. We got it on camera, me surfacing and going, “Am I dead? What happened?” Straight away, I’m like, “How long was that?” It’s pretty cool!
Director James Cameron for ‘Avatar: The Way of Water.’
Moviefone: Mr. Cameron, can you talk about the performance capture suits you used for this film, and have they changed at all from the ones you used on the original?
James Cameron: The suits were the same. We improved the head rigs a bit. I mean, we improved everything. It was all a prototype when we did it on ‘Avatar.’ We didn’t know it was going to work and then we found out it worked pretty well, so then we improved it all. But the process is the same. It’s just there’s no real camera, there’s no set. It’s just a pure interaction between the actors. They love it and I love it.
I don’t have to get distracted by the lighting and the camera work, and the Dolly track and the steady cam stuff. I can just work directly with the actors. I had returning cast, obviously, Sigourney, Sam and Zoe, but I also had this whole new cast with these kids, these newcomers. It was just a joy to go to work every day. Not a joy necessarily always during the day when you’re solving problems and that sort of thing. But we really enjoyed it.
MF: The look of the sequel is incredible and is even more spectacular than the original. Looking forward to ‘Avatar 3,’ ‘Avatar 4,’ and even possibly ‘Avatar 5,’ with technology constantly improving, what do you expect those film’s will look like in the future?
JC: I think over time we’ll shift from the novelty value of being in the world. We can assume that. You walk in, you sit down, you can assume it’ll be immersive because that’s our baseline. It’s really about, how much do I care about these characters, and where’s this story taking me? Where’s this journey taking me?
I mean, we’re always going to try to bring in wonders, awesome moments, amazing vistas and all that sort of thing, but we’re also shifting our focus to the story of the characters and the emotion, which I think is healthy. Because it shouldn’t just be about pretty pictures. The immersive stuff, we know how to do that so they’ll all be like that.
MF: Were you already planning for this sequel when you made the original?
JC: Not really. No. The only thing was that when the studio wanted to take out the scene where Grace (Sigourney Weaver) dies and I said, “You can’t take that out. We need that scene. It’s very important. It’s very important for the sequel.” I hadn’t even written the story yet, but I knew that there was a connection there.
They wanted to take it out and ultimately it just turned into a big headbutting contest, and I won. So, it’s in (the original), therefore we have this movie, at least the Kiri character, comes out of that part of the story.
MF: Are there scenes in ‘Avatar: The Way Of Water’ that you kept in because you needed them for the next three installments?
JC: Oh yeah. Like I said, it’s all written out so we know exactly.
MF: Finally, have you already shot everything you need for ‘Avatar 3?’
JC: ‘Avatar 3’s done. I mean, the movie’s not done, but the capture, all the work with the actors is done. So, dramatically it’s all set in stone. We have to go through the process of making it look real and immersive, and all that sort of thing. That’ll take a couple years.
Then part of ‘Avatar 4’ is not done, but the script is done, and part of ‘Avatar 4’ has been shot. Because we had to finish with these kids because they’re not going to be kids. In fact, they’re not kids now.
Jack’s 6 ft 8″ or whatever. He was 12 when I cast him. Trinity Bliss, she’s such a sweet girl. She was seven when I cast her, and she’s now 13 and about two feet taller. So, we had to bottle that lightning while we had it through the first part of movie 4. And then there’s a big time jump, and then we see all the characters six years later.
So, then everybody will be the right age for the continuation of the story. I didn’t want to get caught in that ‘Stranger Things’ thing where they’re still in high school but they look 25. I like ‘Stranger Things,’ don’t get me wrong. It’s fine and I go with it that they’re still teenagers.
‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ opens in theaters on December 16th. Photo courtesy of the movie’s Twitter account.
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The four forthcoming “Avatar” sequels may have names.
James Cameron is currently in production on the follow-ups to his 2009 blockbuster. Details about the sequels have remained closely guarded, but BBC News reports it has seen documentation outlining the four planned titles.
These titles have not been confirmed by Cameron or 20th Century Fox, so take them with a (huge) grain of salt.
They are:
Avatar 2: The Way of Water
Avatar 3: The Seed Bearer
Avatar 4: The Tulkun Rider
Avatar 5: The Quest for Eywa
Whether these are the true titles, or even working titles, it’s probable they’ll undergo some revisions before hitting theaters. “Avatar 2” won’t be released until 2020 and “Avatar 5” is still far off in the future of 2025.
The first title “The Way of Water” does make sense, as Cameron as previously said the movie will introduce the Na’vi reef people of Metkayina. Cilff Curtis has been cast as their leader and Kate Winslet will be a member of the clan.
And the “Avatar 5” title references Eywa, the deity worshipped by the Na’vi.
“Avatar 2” is slated for release December 18, 2020; “Avatar 3” on December 17, 2021; “Avatar 4” on December 20, 2024; and “Avatar 5″on December 19, 2025.
We still have more than two years before the first of four planned “Avatar” sequels is set to hit theaters, but according to star Sigourney Weaver, half of those films have finished shooting. And what little the actress can reveal about them so far should certainly pique fans’ interest.
In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Weaver chatted about the status of the follow-ups, which are in the midst of an ambitious — and unprecedented — back-to-back-to-back-to-back shooting schedule, led by writer-director James Cameron. The actress told THR that she “just finished shooting two and three,” referring to “Avatar 2” and “Avatar 3” (whose names we assume will change as their release dates approach), and is now working on “Avatar 4” and “Avatar 5.”
Cameron has already stated that the production will be using the most revolutionary filmmaking technology currently available, and that will be implemented in part while shooting underwater scenes. According to Weaver, she “learned how to free dive” for the films, and “did many scenes underwater which was challenging and kind of cool.”
That setting is a key piece of the “Avatar” sequels’ puzzle, the actress told THR, and “the water becomes another world.” All told, each film is its own story, but the four features unite to become “a big saga.”
“They’re amazing,” Weaver gushed to THR, echoing previous comments she made about the long-awaited follow-ups to the 2009 original. “There’s a message to not sacrifice everything for greed and conquest. It will take all four movies to really make that message loud and clear for the whole world.”
It certainly sounds like “Avatars 2-5” will follow in the first film’s footsteps in that regard. Now, the only thing that remains to be seen is whether or not they meet their current release dates.
As it stands, “Avatar 2″is set to premiere on December 18, 2020, followed by “Avatar 3” on December 17, 2021, “Avatar 4” on December 20, 2024, and “Avatar 5” on December 19, 2025.
If you thought TV shows were getting pricey to produce, just wait until you find out how much Fox is dropping on James Cameron‘s four “Avatar” sequels: The four flicks will reportedly cost $1 billion to make.
Deadline reports that production has finally begun in California on the long-awaited sequels to 2009’s “Avatar,” the highest-grossing movie of all time worldwide. While plans for the follow-ups have been evolving for years, with release dates and the exact number of sequels changing more times than we can count, Cameron is apparently finally ready to turn his vision into a reality.
Of course, such lofty vision doesn’t come without an equally lofty price tag, and studio Fox is betting big with a risky shoot that will see all four flicks film back to back to back to back. It’s the first time in history such a consecutive shooting schedule has been employed with four films (Peter Jackson previously held the record with three, for his “Lord of the Rings” and “Hobbit” movies), and according to Deadline, that $1 billion estimate is expected to rise well before the final frame is shot.
“Avatar 2” is currently slated to open on December 18, 2020, with “Avatar 3” opening on December 17, 2021, “Avatar 4” opening on December 20, 2024, and “Avatar 5” opening on December 19, 2025. We’ll see if Cameron’s high-profile production meets those ever-shifting deadlines.
Chaplin is the granddaughter of legendary screen icon Charlie Chaplin, but has amassed an acting resume of her own. She broke out on “Game of Thrones,” but has also appeared in “The Hour,” “Sherlock,” “Black Mirror,” and most recently opposite Tom Hardy in “Taboo.”
The plot of the four “Avatar” sequels is being kept under lock and key. We do know that original stars Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, and Sigourney Weaver will all return.
“Avatar 2” is slated for release Dec. 18, 2020; “Avatar 3” is scheduled for Dec. 17, 2021; “Avatar 4” in December 2024; and “Avatar 5” in 2025.
James Cameron has made many, many promises about the long-gestating sequels to “Avatar” since the 2009 flick went on to become the highest-grossing movie of all time. And as the years have ticked by without another film materializing, it often seemed as though the project would never happen. But now, Cameron has declared that he’s officially done with the scripts for the now-four planned sequels, and has also said that production will finally start later this year.
Whether or not you choose to believe the filmmaker depends on just how much caution you want to attach to your optimism. Cameron discussed his progress on the follow-up flicks in a recent interview with The Daily Beast, and noted that he’s devoted a significant amount of time and attention to each film, perhaps explaining why it’s taken so long to get these movies off the ground.
Here’s what he told The Daily Beast:
” … My focus is on Avatar 2, 3, 4, and 5 equally. That’s exactly how I’m approaching it. They’ve all been developed equally. I’ve just finished the script to Avatar 5. I’m now starting the process of active prep. I’ll be working with the actors in the capture volume in August, so I’m booked in production every day between now and then. Our volume is up and running, and everything is designed, and so we’re going full-guns right now. I feel like I’ve been let out of jail, because I’ve been in the writing cave for the last two years. I’m actually enjoying life. I don’t enjoy writing. I wouldn’t wish writing on a dog.”
So perhaps Cameron’s desire to get everything just right is what caused such a massive delay in production. (And his aversion to writing probably played a role, too.) According to star Sigourney Weaver, all the extra time the filmmaker spent on the scripts appears to be worth it. Audiences will hopefully get to be the judge of that themselves soon.
“Avatar 2,” “Avatar 3,” “Avatar 4,” and “Avatar 5” are currently slated for release around Christmas in 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023.